From ckd@eff.org Fri Aug 28 15:38:45 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2658 news.groups:55892 rec.travel.air:4311 rec.travel:40228 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.travel.air,rec.travel Path: uunet!bounce-back From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) Subject: RFD: rec.travel.marketplace Message-ID: Followup-To: news.groups Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:09:14 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 28 NAME: rec.travel.marketplace CHARTER: This group is for forsale and wanted postings for travel tickets, accomodations, discount coupons, and the like. Rationale: "Ticket for sale" has been a distinct category of rec.travel.air postings, and, as such, has been considered by some to be a category they don't want to read *all the time*. Therefore, much as the comp.sys.*.marketplace groups have been formed to separate the traffic, it has been suggested that a rec.travel.marketplace also be formed. RFD duration: This Request For Discussion will run through September 17, 1992. At that point, either a Call For Votes will be put forward or it won't. Further Discussion: All further discussion on this proposal should go to news.groups, rather than rec.travel and/or rec.travel.air. -- Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665 ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep. Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master From hrose@eff.org Mon Sep 28 22:25:27 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2785 news.groups:57101 rec.travel:41473 rec.travel.air:4859 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.travel,rec.travel.air Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Helen Trillian Rose Subject: CFV: rec.travel.marketplace Message-ID: Followup-To: poster Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: pick-one@eff.org Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:05:21 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 22 Charter: This unmoderated group is for forsale and wanted postings for travel tickets, accomodations, discount coupons, and the like. Voting Instructions: Votes should be sent via email. Only votes mailed to the proper addresses shall be counted. Votes which are posted or mailed to an invalid address will be voided. In the case of vote changes, the *LAST* vote sent by an individual will be counted, and previous votes will be rendered null and void. Voting will conclude at midnight Eastern October 28, 1992. YES votes should be sent to: rtm-yes@eff.org NO votes should be sent to: rtm-no@eff.org --Helen -- Helen Trillian Rose Electronic Frontier Foundation email eff@eff.org for EFF Info Kapor Enterprises, Inc. Flames to: Systems and Networks Administration women-not-to-be-messed-with@eff.org From hrose@eff.org Thu Oct 15 13:11:59 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2831 news.groups:57819 rec.travel:42084 rec.travel.air:5169 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.travel,rec.travel.air Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Helen Trillian Rose Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.travel.marketplace Followup-To: poster Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:03:54 GMT Message-ID: Reply-To: pick-one@eff.org Lines: 151 Charter: This group is for forsale and wanted postings for travel tickets, accomodations, discount coupons, and the like. Voting Instructions: Votes should be sent via email. Only votes mailed to the proper addresses shall be counted. Votes which are posted or mailed to an invalid address will be voided. In the case of vote changes, the *LAST* vote sent by an individual will be counted, and previous votes will be rendered null and void. Voting will conclude at midnight Eastern October 28, 1992. YES votes should be sent to: rtm-yes@eff.org NO votes should be sent to: rtm-no@eff.org Those whom have already voted: "(Ernst Niebur)" "Bill Rubin" "Cole Kendall" "Dave V. Schaller" "David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" "David J. Murphy" "Eric J. Olson" "Eric J. Splaver" "Khee Chan, SSL/ESOC at JPL, ULYSSES Flight Dynamics" "Laura Kramer" "Matti Suokko (OH5MRM)" "Moshe E. Rappoport tel +41 1 7248 424" "Patrick LEROY (Bull Worldwide Information Systems)" "Paul W. Nikkel" 90198405@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Alister McDonald) Aaron Roydhouse Andy Malis Arne Henrik Juul Aron Eisenpress Ben Davis Ben Yalow Brian Kenney Charles Shub Dark Elf <9029699@ul.ie> David Murphy David.Tahajian@east.sun.com (David Tahajian - Sun BOS Software) Ed.Miller@corp.sun.com (Ed Miller) Gary G. Cannon Glenn Host Inna Lauris J Robert Dobbs Esq. Jim Ault Joe Konstan John Wilcock 29-Sep-1992 1456 <"bigbos::wilcock"@frmrc.enet.dec.com> Jonathan Lin Jorg Forster Karl Swartz Kevin Junck Kurt Thearling Lisa Sieverts Marc Moorcroft Marc Takeno Nancy Linn Nick Noble R1DBS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU Rick_Kovalcik@vos.stratus.com Rob Knauerhase Roland Schock Samuel C. Wait Jr Steve Dakin Stupendous Man Susan Carlson Tim Chambers VHARS%CCSTAT@mc.duke.edu Windsor A. Morgan ag519@yfn.ysu.edu (Jonathon Lin) al198723@next14.mty.itesm.mx aldr@lab2.phys.lgu.spb.su (Alexey I. Drachev) asif@aat.async.vt.edu ask@cblph.att.com (Arthur S Kamlet) bahadir guler baldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin) barr@ash.mmm.ucar.EDU (Keith Barr) bglazier@buffalo.asd.sgi.com (Bill Glazier) bu251@cleveland.freenet.edu (Jonathan W. Lin) charleen@ads.com (Charleen Bunjiovianna) chris@jupiter.fnbc.com (Chris Toczycki) cjs01@cd.amdahl.com (Chris Somers) cvl0%sun@gte.com (Carol Lafond) davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons) debeijer@cs.UCSD.EDU douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis) dziuk@hsi.com (Ronald V. Dziuk Jr.) efs@summa4.mv.com (Ed Sinamark) emcguire@mama3.intellection.com erik@tera.com (Erik Hedberg) eriko@idt.unit.no ernst@cns.caltech.edu (Ernst Niebur) erwin@bend.UCSD.EDU (Sean Erwin) fenwick@w0x0f.clipper.ingr.com (Stephen Fenwick) flowers@delphi.bio.caltech.edu (Dave Flowers) giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani) groy@nlm.nih.gov (Gautam Roy) henry@ads.com (Henry Mensch) ids-bo@garnet.berkeley.edu jap@cb1focus.att.com jaslow@Kodak.COM (Russell Jaslow) jeffw@swindle.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Wallace) jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson) jsw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (jsw) klassen@sol.UVic.CA (Melvin Klassen) kmeyer@aero.org ksantos@godzilla.ma30.bull.com (Kathy Santos) ksh@mayo.EDU (Kerrie Holton) linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill) matwood%bullion@cs.utah.edu mcmanus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Pat McManus) mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU mie@faline.bellcore.com (Martin I. Eiger) nulspace@cs.UMD.EDU (Michael Chang) owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens) pan@lurch.stanford.edu (Doug Pan) par@teak.cray.com (Peter Rigsbee) parabosc@eclipse.Stanford.EDU (Stefano Paraboschi) pas@cc.gatech.edu (Paulo Santos) paul@popcbr.ROCKEFELLER.EDU (Paul Alukal) pc@thumper.bellcore.com (Peter Clitherow) pedregal%unreal@cs.umass.edu plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) ply24@cas.org (Pat Yontz (ext. 2562, ply24)) pseudo!mjn@igc.UUCP (Murray Nesbitt) reb@ingres.com (Phydeaux) reiter@aisb.edinburgh.ac.uk rgl@crosfield.co.uk (Robert Lawless) rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) rnewman@BBN.COM ron@osf.org ruman@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (ruman) ruppen@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Andy Ruppenstein) sandy@library.calpoly.edu (Sandra Beck) sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson) shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Duckie Shiau) simona@panix.com (Simona Nass) sribala@leland.stanford.edu steffen koehler stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve X. Portigal) sunsrv!markj!etak@fernwood.mpk.ca.us thomas@asl.dl.nec.com (Kevin Thomas) tkoppel%server@carl.org (Ted Koppel) tom@igs.com (Tom Nelson) wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald) From hrose@eff.org Mon Nov 2 15:42:28 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2887 news.groups:58618 rec.travel:42735 rec.travel.air:5430 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.travel,rec.travel.air Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Helen Trillian Rose Subject: RESULT: rec.travel.marketplace passes 140:39 Followup-To: news.groups Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 23:55:44 GMT Message-ID: Lines: 201 The final vote count was 140 (YES) - 39 (NO). The group will be created after the usual five day waiting period. A duplicate NO vote was received from al198723@next00.mty.itesm.mx, duplicating a NO vote from al198723@next14.mty.itesm.mx. The duplicate was discarded. A duplicate NO vote was also received from baldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin). The duplicate was discarded. Duplicate YES votes were received from: futtrup@daimi.aau.dk sribala@leland.stanford.edu The duplicates were discarded. NO votes: "Dave V. Schaller" "Eric J. Olson" "Laura Kramer" "Peter A. Olenick" Andy Lipscomb Arne Henrik Juul Brian Kenney Dark Elf <9029699@ul.ie> Geoffrey.V.Bronner@Dartmouth.EDU Glenn Host Jonathan Lin Marc Moorcroft Nancy Linn Rob Knauerhase Stupendous Man ag519@yfn.ysu.edu (Jonathon Lin) al198723@next14.mty.itesm.mx ask@cblph.att.com (Arthur S Kamlet) baldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin) barrett@cc.gatech.edu (James Barrett) bu251@cleveland.freenet.edu (Jonathan W. Lin) chris@jupiter.fnbc.com (Chris Toczycki) cjs01@cd.amdahl.com (Chris Somers) davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons) dziuk@hsi.com (Ronald V. Dziuk Jr.) emcguire@mama3.intellection.com ids-bo@garnet.berkeley.edu kmeyer@aero.org mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU msakai@cc.brynmawr.edu (Sakai Makiko) nulspace@cs.UMD.EDU (Michael Chang) owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens) peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce) plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) pseudo!mjn@igc.UUCP (Murray Nesbitt) rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Duckie Shiau) sp0mikpa@caligula.his.se (Mikael Parknert) tkoppel%server@carl.org (Ted Koppel) YES votes: "(Ernst Niebur)" "Bill Rubin" "Cole Kendall" "David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" "David J. Murphy" "Eric J. Splaver" "Khee Chan, SSL/ESOC at JPL, ULYSSES Flight Dynamics" "Matti Suokko (OH5MRM)" "Moshe E. Rappoport tel +41 1 7248 424" "Patrick LEROY (Bull Worldwide Information Systems)" "Paul W. Nikkel" 90198405@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Alister McDonald) Aaron Roydhouse Andy Malis Aron Eisenpress Ben Davis Ben Yalow CHORLEY@vms.ocom.okstate.edu Charles Shub Christopher Davis David Murphy David.Tahajian@east.sun.com (David Tahajian - Sun BOS Software) Ed.Miller@corp.sun.com (Ed Miller) Edwin Slonim Elizabeth Schwartz Ernest Blaschke Gary G. Cannon Inna Lauris J Robert Dobbs Esq. Janice Price Jim Ault Joan Pache Joe Konstan John Wilcock 29-Sep-1992 1456 <"bigbos::wilcock"@frmrc.enet.dec.com> Jorg Forster Justine Comer Karl Swartz Ken Staggers Kevin Junck Kurt Thearling Laura Kirk de Leon Leo J. Hetling Lisa Sieverts Marc Takeno Mary P. Luczak Michael Panayiotakis Michael Weiss Nick Noble Pham Phan R1DBS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU Rick_Kovalcik@vos.stratus.com Roland Schock Samuel C. Wait Jr Simon Breeze Steve Dakin Susan Carlson Tim Chambers Tony Heatwole VHARS%CCSTAT@mc.duke.edu Victor A. Carreno Windsor A. Morgan aldr@lab2.phys.lgu.spb.su (Alexey I. Drachev) asif@aat.async.vt.edu bahadir guler barr@ash.mmm.ucar.EDU (Keith Barr) bglazier@buffalo.asd.sgi.com (Bill Glazier) bgt@goofy.att.com charleen@ads.com (Charleen Bunjiovianna) cvl0%sun@gte.com (Carol Lafond) debeijer@cs.UCSD.EDU dev@ecn.purdue.edu (Larry Weeks) dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb) douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis) durham@mprgate.mpr.ca (Paul Durham) efs@summa4.mv.com (Ed Sinamark) erik@tera.com (Erik Hedberg) eriko@idt.unit.no ernst@cns.caltech.edu (Ernst Niebur) erwin@bend.UCSD.EDU (Sean Erwin) fenwick@w0x0f.clipper.ingr.com (Stephen Fenwick) flowers@delphi.bio.caltech.edu (Dave Flowers) futtrup@daimi.aau.dk giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani) groy@nlm.nih.gov (Gautam Roy) henry@ads.com (Henry Mensch) howard@hal.com (Howard Gayle) iak@child.msk.su (Igor Kostarnov) ilana@niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Ilana Stern) jap@cb1focus.att.com jaslow@Kodak.COM (Russell Jaslow) jeffw@swindle.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Wallace) jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson) jordan@imsi.com (Jordan Hayes) jsw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (jsw) kchou@sti.com (Kathryn Chou) klassen@sol.UVic.CA (Melvin Klassen) kornerup@cs.utexas.edu (Jacob Kornerup) ksantos@godzilla.ma30.bull.com (Kathy Santos) ksh@mayo.EDU (Kerrie Holton) linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill) loreen@raider.sandiego.ncr.com matwood%bullion@cs.utah.edu mcmanus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Pat McManus) mie@faline.bellcore.com (Martin I. Eiger) murthy@ssd.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy) nick.waanders@med.umich.edu (Nick Waanders) nigam@pandora.mitre.org (Alok C. Nigam) pan@lurch.stanford.edu (Doug Pan) par@teak.cray.com (Peter Rigsbee) parabosc@eclipse.Stanford.EDU (Stefano Paraboschi) pas@cc.gatech.edu (Paulo Santos) paul@popcbr.ROCKEFELLER.EDU (Paul Alukal) pc@thumper.bellcore.com (Peter Clitherow) pedregal%unreal@cs.umass.edu percus@lpncls.in2p3.fr (Allon Percus) ply24@cas.org (Pat Yontz (ext. 2562, ply24)) prabhag@wilkins.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Prabha Ganapathy) pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU reb@ingres.com (Phydeaux) reiter@aisb.edinburgh.ac.uk rgl@crosfield.co.uk (Robert Lawless) rnewman@BBN.COM ron@osf.org root@ccs.sogang.ac.kr (Sogang University Seoul Korea ccs) ruman@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (ruman) ruppen@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Andy Ruppenstein) sandy@library.calpoly.edu (Sandra Beck) sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson) simona@panix.com (Simona Nass) sribala@leland.stanford.edu steffen koehler stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve X. Portigal) sunsrv!markj!etak@fernwood.mpk.ca.us thomas@asl.dl.nec.com (Kevin Thomas) tom@igs.com (Tom Nelson) toms@ichips.intel.com wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald) yono@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Suryono Adisoemarta)