From dadams@cherry.cray.com Tue May 12 11:08:41 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2336 news.groups:50756 rec.antiques:738 rec.food.cooking:42490 rec.crafts.brewing:4220 misc.rural:3882 rec.gardens:11864 rec.org.sca:23779 rec.food.veg:18092 rec.food.drink:11313 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.antiques,rec.food.cooking,rec.crafts.brewing,misc.rural,rec.gardens,rec.org.sca,rec.food.veg,rec.food.drink Path: uunet!bounce-back From: dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams) Subject: RFD: rec.food.historic Message-ID: <1992May12.145035.5246@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: Cray Research, Inc. Date: Tue, 12 May 1992 14:50:35 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 64 I would like to open discussion for the formation of the following newsgroup: Name: rec.food.historic. Proposed Charter: This group is dedicated to discussing and discovering how food was made and prepared way back when--From ancient times down until (& possibly including or even going slightly beyond) the times when industrial revolution began to change our lives in so many ways. The emphasis is on re-discovering lost or *out of fashion* historic food making arts. This would include the following subjects as well as others: Historic use of herbs both for food and for medicine. Was there any basis for aunt Em's remedies? etc. Winter Storage of Food. -root cellaring -meat curing -historic uses of culturing for preserving food brine curing pickles cheese making soy sauces biology of cultured food making. etc. Old fashioned cooking tools & utensils Dutch ovens (Maybe someone could give me some more examples here?) etc. Food history-- pre-modern. -not limited to ideas of European origin. and many other historic or antiquated food topics. Status: Unmoderated. It is not suspected that this group would have an extremely controversial nature, and hence the services of a moderator are deemed unnecessary. If you want to propose moderation, please find the volunteer. Rational: The idea for this group came about mostly from some discussions in the sourdough mailing list, by those who found they had some common interest in some areas beyond sourdough. This group is not meant to supplant or replace any of the groups in the rec.food.* hierarchy, rather it is meant as a supplement to all of them. Outstanding issues: When we get to the CFV stage we hope to make use of automated voting software that news.groups readers have offered. --David C. Adams Statistician Cray Research Inc. dadams@cray.com __________________________________________________________________ Did you know that most Americans eat over a ton of dirt every day? From dadams@cray.com Fri Jun 19 13:24:39 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2431 news.groups:52912 rec.antiques:909 rec.food.cooking:44702 rec.crafts.brewing:4784 misc.rural:4105 rec.gardens:13125 rec.org.sca:25879 rec.food.veg:19103 rec.food.drink:11575 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.antiques,rec.food.cooking,rec.crafts.brewing,misc.rural,rec.gardens,rec.org.sca,rec.food.veg,rec.food.drink Path: uunet!bounce-back From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams) Subject: CFV: rec.food.historic Message-ID: <1992Jun19.040739.6634@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu Organization: Cray Research, Inc. Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1992 04:07:39 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 98 This is the first CFV with regard to rec.food.historic. Name: rec.food.historic. Charter: This group is dedicated to discussing and discovering how food was made and prepared way back when--From ancient times down until (& possibly including or even going slightly beyond) the times when industrial revolution began to change our lives in so many ways. The emphasis is on re-discovering lost or *out of fashion* historic food making arts. This would include the following subjects as well as others: Research and discussion of old recipes, and ways to replicate them today. Historic use of herbs both for food and for medicine. Was there any basis for aunt Em's remedies? etc. Winter Storage of Food. -root cellaring -meat curing -historic uses of culturing for preserving food brine curing pickles cheese making soy sauces biology of cultured food making. etc. Old fashioned cooking tools & utensils Dutch ovens (Maybe someone could give me some more examples here?) etc. Food history-- pre-modern. -not limited to ideas of European origin. and many other historic or antiquated food topics. Status: Unmoderated. It is not suspected that this group would have an extremely controversial nature, and hence the services of a moderator are deemed unnecessary. Rational: The idea for this group came about mostly from some discussions in the sourdough mailing list, by those who found they had some common interest in some areas beyond sourdough. This group is not meant to supplant or replace any of the groups in the rec.food.* hierarchy, rather it is meant as a supplement to all of them. VOTING INSTRUCTIONS: Do not post your vote, it will not be counted. The reply-to address of this posting should point to the correct place, but double check your mail before sending to make sure. To cast a vote, send mail to "mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu" with ONE of the following strings (you don't need the quotes) "vote rec.food.historic yes" "vote rec.food.historic no" on a line by itself in the subject field or body of the message, where "yes" means that you DO want rec.food.historic created. "no" means that you DO NOT want rec.food.historic created. * The deadline is 11:59:59 PM Fri 18-Jul-1992, EDT (GMT - 4). * The mail server will reply within two hours confirming your vote. If no confirmation is received (allowing for normal E-mail round trip time), you may inquire at postmaster@pit-manager.mit.edu to verify that the vote was received. * If your mail message contains a signature, then be sure to put the string "quit" before it to prevent the mail server from being confused. * DO NOT mail votes to David Adams * DO NOT mail votes to jik@mit.edu. * DO NOT include any message in your vote (it won't be read). The CFV will be posted indivudually to the sourdough mailing list. If you would like it to be posted in any other lists of which I am unaware please contact me. --David C. Adams Statistician Cray Research Inc. dadams@cray.com __________________________________________________________________ Did you know that most Americans eat over a ton of dirt every day? From dadams@cray.com Wed Jul 1 16:34:33 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2482 news.groups:53569 rec.antiques:977 rec.food.cooking:45468 rec.crafts.brewing:5000 misc.rural:4181 rec.gardens:13456 rec.org.sca:26510 rec.food.veg:19454 rec.food.drink:11692 Path: uunet!uunet!bounce-back From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.antiques,rec.food.cooking,rec.crafts.brewing,misc.rural,rec.gardens,rec.org.sca,rec.food.veg,rec.food.drink Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.food.historic Followup-To: poster Date: 1 Jul 1992 15:45:44 -0400 Organization: Cray Research, Inc. Lines: 318 Sender: tale@news.UU.NET (David C Lawrence) Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <12t218INNbpb@news.UU.NET> Reply-To: mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net This is the second CFV with regard to rec.food.historic. A mass acknowledgement of votes recieved so far is included at the end of the posting. Name: rec.food.historic Charter: This group is dedicated to discussing and discovering how food was made and prepared way back when--From ancient times down until (& possibly including or even going slightly beyond) the times when industrial revolution began to change our lives in so many ways. The emphasis is on re-discovering lost or *out of fashion* historic food making arts. This would include the following subjects as well as others: Research and discussion of old recipes, and ways to replicate them today. Historic use of herbs both for food and for medicine. Was there any basis for aunt Em's remedies? etc. Winter Storage of Food. -root cellaring -meat curing -historic uses of culturing for preserving food brine curing pickles cheese making soy sauces biology of cultured food making. etc. Old fashioned cooking tools & utensils Dutch ovens (Maybe someone could give me some more examples here?) etc. Food history-- pre-modern. -not limited to ideas of European origin. and many other historic or antiquated food topics. Status: Unmoderated. It is not suspected that this group would have an extremely controversial nature, and hence the services of a moderator are deemed unnecessary. Rational: The idea for this group came about mostly from some discussions in the sourdough mailing list, by those who found they had some common interest in some areas beyond sourdough. This group is not meant to supplant or replace any of the groups in the rec.food.* hierarchy, rather it is meant as a supplement to all of them. VOTING INSTRUCTIONS: Do not post your vote, it will not be counted. The reply-to address of this posting should point to the correct place, but double check your mail before sending to make sure. To cast a vote, send mail to "mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu" with ONE of the following strings (you don't need the quotes) "vote rec.food.historic yes" "vote rec.food.historic no" on a line by itself in the subject field or body of the message, where "yes" means that you DO want rec.food.historic created. "no" means that you DO NOT want rec.food.historic created. * The deadline is 11:59:59 PM Fri 18-Jul-1992, EDT (GMT - 4). * The mail server will reply within two hours confirming your vote. If no confirmation is received (allowing for normal E-mail round trip time), you may inquire at postmaster@pit-manager.mit.edu to verify that the vote was received. * If your mail message contains a signature, then be sure to put the string "quit" before it to prevent the mail server from being confused. * DO NOT mail votes to David Adams * DO NOT mail votes to jik@mit.edu. * DO NOT include any message in your vote (it won't be read). The CFV will be posted indivudually to the sourdough mailing list. If you would like it to be posted in any other lists of which I am unaware please contact me. --David C. Adams Statistician Cray Research Inc. dadams@cray.com __________________________________________________________________ Did you know that most Americans eat over a ton of dirt every day? The following people have voted so far: As of about midnight this morning, here are the list of people who have voted on rec.food.historic. Voters (209): akatlas@Athena.MIT.EDU akerson@srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp) al279@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Albert Pang alg@cs.cornell.edu (Anne Louise Gockel) Andre Lehovich arkdr@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Dave Rindos) arnej@lise.unit.no ask@cblph.att.com (Arthur S Kamlet) Arlene Topacio Brad Starkie HURN SMITH "Kelly D. Beacham" Ben Golding bnostran@ds5000.dac.northeastern.edu "Bob Billson" Bob Wildfong bq434@cleveland.Freenet.Edu brent@myka.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Brent J. Krawchuk) bu484@cleveland.Freenet.Edu buglady@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Aliza R. Panitz) bwalther@ccs.carleton.ca (Bill Walther) Roger Campbell carl@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Carl J.M. Alexander) Kelly Lynn Carney carroll@asw.ds.boeing.com (Bill Carroll) cbenson@adobe.com (Craig Benson) ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas) chicks@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Christopher Hicks) ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson) sunne!cjowett@abvax.icd.ab.com (Charles E. Jowett) claird@sugar.NeoSoft.Com (Cameron Laird) close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close) codge@festival.Canal.ORG (Codge) coleman@leland.stanford.edu Colette Goodyear cplma@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Lynn Alford) Louise Crago cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher) dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams) dales@tekcci.cci.tek.com (Dale D. Snell) Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM DANCER@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU danf@sherpa.com ("Dan Ford") Dave Uebele "David Forster" David Taylor davidg@polvadera.dartmouth.edu (David Gelhar) davidsen@crd.GE.COM (bill davidsen) dbell@cup.portal.com Douglas P Brownfield david director friedman dfw@thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods) djdeeds@hac2arpa.hac.com (Deanna J. Deeds) djoyce@black.clarku.edu (Dave Joyce) donna@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donna Whitlinger) Dwight Starr DUNHAM_JERRY@tandem.com eisen@kopf.HQ.Ileaf.COM (Carl West) emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) EMW@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au Sean Philip Engelson erich@wubios.wustl.edu (Erich Schraer) "Adam W. Feigin" crash!loral!fm@nosc.mil (Frank Morrison) foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com Frank Hamlin gdunn@vlbacc.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Gene Dunn) gere@calvin.stanford.edu (Susan Gere) goodman@crl.ucsd.edu (Judith Goodman (UCSD)) James Harvey haynes@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Lori Haynes) heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr) Helge Hauglin homebru!smith!dick@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com IBOWMAN@beach.gal.utexas.edu (INCI BOWMAN) Shirley Woods Jack Campin jamys@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Godley) janet@saffron.Stanford.EDU JORGE BELA-KINDELAN jde@molokini.unify.com (Jeff Evarts) "Jeff Brooks" jerry@teetot.acusd.edu (Jerry Stratton) jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu John G Dobnick JLM%SLACVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu "Jenni Sheehey" Johanna.Uhlin@ludd.luth.se Joseph_Murdock@NeXT.COM (Joseph Murdock) Joel Sax Tairatelorp Roland Kaltefleiter Julie A. Kangas kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley) ked01@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) kej@dsc.com (Karin E. Jones) Brent Kellmer kenney@hsi86.hsi.com (Brian Kenney) kevin@iscmed.med.ge.com (Kevin Sears x3-5160) kha@cs.brown.edu (Katrina Avery) kls@whq-top.DaytonOH.NCR.COM telesys!kreed@telesys.tnet.com@ennews.eas.asu.edu (Kevin W. Reed) ktk@nas.nasa.gov (Katy T. Kislitzin) Eileen Kupstas larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence) larrys@cc.snow.edu Laura Gillespie Laura M. Edwards lewin@asterix.ipgp.jussieu.fr (LEWIN Eric) lgold@Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) lgolder@hoh.mbl.edu (Linda or Robert Golder) Linda Wald lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) Ross Livingston lliou@sdcc3.UCSD.EDU (Lily Liou ) "Linda F. Little" lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden, x2487) malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy) mark@hsi86.hsi.com (Mark Sicignano) mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann) mccombi@cs.rpi.edu (I-Heng McComb) mcspdx!adpgate!martin@udc.urbana.mcd.mot.com med@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au (Marion Diamond) Michelle Hamilton mgolden@zip.eecs.umich.edu mhpower@stan.mit.edu Michael Bryan "Michele M. Kapur" moriarty@tc.fluke.com (Jeff Meyer) Marc D Rovner Mike Topliff David Auerbach nick@brimbank.pub.uu.oz.au (Nick Langmaid) scifi!njs@uunet.UU.NET (Nicholas J. Simicich) nkn@Solbourne.COM (Neil Nelson) Paul Palmer Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz Paula Burch Po Shan Cheah pcg@panix.com (Paul Gallagher) pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close) pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard ) Peter.Parnes@ludd.luth.se philo@einstein (Philip R. Obermarck) Adina Adler "Paul Harrington (Reptile)" pjh@eng.cam.ac.uk (P.J. Hogben) plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) "Ron Pluth" phil diamond PSANTUCCI@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU Alice Ramirez "LCDR Michael E. Dobson" rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (R. D. Keys) Harris Boldt Edelman ESO Technical Support 23-Jun-1992 0909 "K. W. WELCH" rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms) rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) rleroux1@sol.UVic.CA (Roger Leroux) "R. Mark Jones" rmosher@mdd.comm.mot.com (Richard Mosher) Robin Rosenbaum rogerp@amgen.com (Roger Parks) root@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sys Admin (williams)) ross@unirsvl.RSVL.UNISYS.COM russellb@cc.snow.edu Saul Tannenbaum schaller@hsi86.hsi.com (Dave V. Schaller) schlumpf%uimrl5.dnet@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Horses horses everywhere and not a one to ride.) schuldy@bedford.progress.COM (Mark Schuldenfrei) "Stephen (local 6019)" shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) shel@is.rice.edu (Michelle D Johnson) shimeall@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall) "Janice A Singer" Seismo Malm Sherry Modestino Marc Moorcroft quick!srg@quick.com (Spencer Garrett) tosh!starta@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (John Starta) stu@valinor.mythical.com Sven Heinicke swildner@channelz.GUN.de "ACAD3A::SXRMH1" taddiken@cae1.srl.ford.com (Russ Taddiken) Ted.Taylor@p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor) Terry Partis tgt@cbfsa.att.com thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com Thomas Lee Horton todd@da_bearz.Central.Sun.COM (Todd Mann) todd@reed.edu (Todd Ellner) Tom_Moser@vos.stratus.com tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life? Ha!) Anthony Thomas Cusack Matthias Urlichs velde@gopher.Stanford.EDU (Francois Velde) waks@world.std.com (Justin and Jane) wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald) Nancy wcr@rsch.oclc.org (Will C. Ray) Phil Weiss Bill Venables young@serum.clpd.Kodak.COM (Rich Young (x37176)) Nick Zentena -- From dadams@cherry.cray.com Tue Jul 21 17:08:32 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2556 news.groups:54516 rec.antiques:1059 rec.food.cooking:46609 rec.crafts.brewing:5334 misc.rural:4349 rec.gardens:13899 rec.org.sca:27390 rec.food.veg:20029 rec.food.drink:11908 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.antiques,rec.food.cooking,rec.crafts.brewing,misc.rural,rec.gardens,rec.org.sca,rec.food.veg,rec.food.drink Path: uunet!bounce-back From: dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams) Subject: RESULT: rec.food.historic passes 214: 29 Message-ID: <1992Jul21.192639.4835@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: Cray Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:26:39 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 258 The vote for rec.food.historic passes 214 yes to 29 no. Here is the vote result from the vote counting software at pit-manager.MIT.EDU on the issue of creating rec.food.historic: "yes" votes (214): adzhoss@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Dutch) akatlas@Athena.MIT.EDU akerson@srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp) al279@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Albert Pang alg@cs.cornell.edu (Anne Louise Gockel) Andre Lehovich ann@wag.caltech.edu arkdr@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Dave Rindos) Arlene Topacio Brad Starkie HURN SMITH bbs.rp@goonsquad.Spies.COM (Robert Prentiss) "Kelly D. Beacham" Ben Golding "B. Kevin Edgar" bnostran@ds5000.dac.northeastern.edu "Bob Billson" Bob Wildfong bq434@cleveland.Freenet.Edu brent@myka.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Brent J. Krawchuk) bu484@cleveland.Freenet.Edu buglady@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Aliza R. Panitz) bwalther@ccs.carleton.ca (Bill Walther) Roger Campbell carl@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Carl J.M. Alexander) Kelly Lynn Carney carroll@asw.ds.boeing.com (Bill Carroll) cbenson@adobe.com (Craig Benson) ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas) chicks@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Christopher Hicks) ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson) sunne!cjowett@abvax.icd.ab.com (Charles E. Jowett) claird@sugar.NeoSoft.Com (Cameron Laird) close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close) codge@festival.Canal.ORG (Codge) coleman@leland.stanford.edu Colette Goodyear cplma@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Lynn Alford) Louise Crago dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams) dales@tekcci.cci.tek.com (Dale D. Snell) Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM DANCER@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU danf@sherpa.com ("Dan Ford") Dave Uebele "David Forster" David Taylor davidg@polvadera.dartmouth.edu (David Gelhar) davidsen@crd.GE.COM (bill davidsen) dbell@cup.portal.com Douglas P Brownfield david director friedman dfw@thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods) djdeeds@hac2arpa.hac.com (Deanna J. Deeds) djoyce@black.clarku.edu (Dave Joyce) Don Dillon donna@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donna Whitlinger) dspicer@orca.fhcrc.org (Debbie Spicer) Dwight Starr DUNHAM_JERRY@tandem.com eisen@kopf.HQ.Ileaf.COM (Carl West) emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) EMW@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au Sean Philip Engelson erich@wubios.wustl.edu (Erich Schraer) eurquhar@sfu.ca crash!loral!fm@nosc.mil (Frank Morrison) foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com Frank Hamlin gdunn@vlbacc.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Gene Dunn) gere@calvin.stanford.edu (Susan Gere) goodman@crl.ucsd.edu (Judith Goodman (UCSD)) Gretchen Miller habs@acf3.NYU.EDU (Harry A. B. Shapiro) BETH HAMM James Harvey haynes@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Lori Haynes) heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr) Helge Hauglin Laura Holst IBOWMAN@beach.gal.utexas.edu (INCI BOWMAN) Shirley Woods J.Deakin@sheffield-city-poly.ac.uk j.guy@trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) Jack Campin jamys@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Godley) janet@saffron.Stanford.EDU JORGE BELA-KINDELAN jchokey@leland.stanford.edu jclose@chesapeake.ads.com (Jeff Close) jde@molokini.unify.com (Jeff Evarts) "Jeff Brooks" jerry@teetot.acusd.edu (Jerry Stratton) jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu John G Dobnick JLM%SLACVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu "Jenni Sheehey" Johanna.Uhlin@ludd.luth.se johnson@ssv004.ssd.loral.com (Christopher Johnson) Joseph_Murdock@NeXT.COM (Joseph Murdock) justin@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Justin du Coeur MKA Mark Waks) Tairatelorp Julie A. Kangas kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley) kej@dsc.com (Karin E. Jones) Brent Kellmer Kenneth C. Rich kevin@iscmed.med.ge.com (Kevin Sears x3-5160) kha@cs.brown.edu (Katrina Avery) Karolen I. Paularena kls@whq-top.DaytonOH.NCR.COM ktk@nas.nasa.gov (Katy T. Kislitzin) Eileen Kupstas larrys@cc.snow.edu Laura Gillespie Laura M. Edwards lewin@asterix.ipgp.jussieu.fr (LEWIN Eric) lgold@Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) lgolder@hoh.mbl.edu (Linda or Robert Golder) Linda Wald Ross Livingston lliou@sdcc3.UCSD.EDU (Lily Liou ) "Linda F. Little" lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden, x2487) malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy) manes@bu-pub.bu.edu mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann) mauthe@aclcb.purdue.edu mccombi@cs.rpi.edu (I-Heng McComb) mccoy@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jim Mccoy) Beth McLaughlin mcspdx!adpgate!martin@udc.urbana.mcd.mot.com med@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au (Marion Diamond) Michelle Hamilton mgolden@zip.eecs.umich.edu "Michele M. Kapur" Michael Pope Marc D Rovner Mike Topliff David Auerbach nick@brimbank.pub.uu.oz.au (Nick Langmaid) nkn@Solbourne.COM (Neil Nelson) Paul Palmer Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz Paula Burch Po Shan Cheah pcg@panix.com (Paul Gallagher) pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close) pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard ) Peter.Parnes@ludd.luth.se philo@einstein (Philip R. Obermarck) Adina Adler "Paul Harrington (Reptile)" pjh@eng.cam.ac.uk (P.J. Hogben) "Ron Pluth" phil diamond PSANTUCCI@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU Alice Ramirez "LCDR Michael E. Dobson" rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (R. D. Keys) Harris Boldt Edelman ESO Technical Support 23-Jun-1992 0909 rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms) rleroux1@sol.UVic.CA (Roger Leroux) "R. Mark Jones" Robin Rosenbaum rogerp@amgen.com (Roger Parks) root@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sys Admin (williams)) ross@unirsvl.RSVL.UNISYS.COM russellb@cc.snow.edu sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) Saul Tannenbaum schlumpf%uimrl5.dnet@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Horses horses everywhere and not a one to ride.) schuldy@bedford.progress.COM (Mark Schuldenfrei) "Stephen (local 6019)" shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) shel@is.rice.edu (Michelle D Johnson) shimeall@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall) Eric Sieferman "Janice A Singer" Seismo Malm Sherry Modestino quick!srg@quick.com (Spencer Garrett) tosh!starta@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (John Starta) stu@valinor.mythical.com swildner@channelz.GUN.de "ACAD3A::SXRMH1" taddiken@cae1.srl.ford.com (Russ Taddiken) Ted.Taylor@p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor) Terry Partis thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com thy@banshee.camb.inmet.com (Tom Yelton) Thomas Lee Horton todd@da_bearz.Central.Sun.COM (Todd Mann) todd@reed.edu (Todd Ellner) Tom_Moser@vos.stratus.com "Thomas W. Strong, Jr." tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life? Ha!) Anthony Thomas Cusack Matthias Urlichs VANFLEETR@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU velde@gopher.Stanford.EDU (Francois Velde) vusl@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (VU Science Library) waks@world.std.com (Justin and Jane) wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald) Nancy wcr@rsch.oclc.org (Will C. Ray) Bill Venables young@serum.clpd.Kodak.COM (Rich Young (x37176)) Nick Zentena "no" votes (29): arnej@lise.unit.no ask@cblph.att.com (Arthur S Kamlet) cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher) douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis) "Adam W. Feigin" homebru!smith!dick@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com johnf@apollo.hp.com Joel Sax Roland Kaltefleiter ked01@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) kenney@hsi86.hsi.com (Brian Kenney) telesys!kreed@telesys.tnet.com@ennews.eas.asu.edu (Kevin W. Reed) larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence) lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) mark@hsi86.hsi.com (Mark Sicignano) mhpower@stan.mit.edu Michael Bryan moriarty@tc.fluke.com (Jeff Meyer) scifi!njs@uunet.UU.NET (Nicholas J. Simicich) plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) "K. W. WELCH" rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) rmosher@mdd.comm.mot.com (Richard Mosher) schaller@hsi86.hsi.com (Dave V. Schaller) Marc Moorcroft soltesz@cnad.ml.nec.com^I(John Soltesz) Sven Heinicke tgt@cbfsa.att.com Phil Weiss -- --David C. Adams Statistician Cray Research Inc. dadams@cray.com ___________________________________________________________________ If you have a watch, you always know what time it is. If you have two, you're never quite sure. From dadams@cray.com Sun Jul 26 21:31:04 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2565 news.groups:54665 rec.antiques:1078 rec.food.cooking:46817 rec.crafts.brewing:5377 misc.rural:4364 rec.food.veg:20127 rec.food.drink:11930 rec.gardens:13973 rec.org.sca:27610 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.antiques,rec.food.cooking,rec.crafts.brewing,misc.rural,rec.food.veg,rec.food.drink,rec.gardens,rec.org.sca Path: uunet!bounce-back From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams) Subject: RESULT: rec.food.{historic,sourdough} corrections Message-ID: <1992Jul24.035424.2732@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: Cray Research, Inc. Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:54:24 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 627 This morning I recieved the following message from Jonathan Kamens, who runs the vote taking software, correcting the earlier totals for the rec.food.historic and rec.food.sourdough votes. Neither result is changed, but rather both groups pass by a wider margin now than before, so I don't think it is a big issue. I have not recieved any complaints yet. ;^) rec.food.historic was incorrectly reported as: 214 yes votes to 29 no votes. (pass) It is actually: 250 yes votes to 37 no votes. (even more a pass) rec.food.sourdough was incorrectly reported as: 202 yes votes to 38 no votes. (pass) It is actually: 232 yes votes to 48 no votes. (even more a pass) So the pass/fail results do not change in any signifigant sense, but this updated list may dispel confusion for those few whose votes did not show up on the previous list. (Like I said above, nobody has complained yet, so it probably has not been viewed as a big issue.) _________________included message_________________________________ From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" Subject: Oh, fudge.... I messed up The vote tallies I sent you were incorrect, and I suspect you're going to start getting complaints from the people whose votes were not listed because I screwed up :-(. Sorry about that. The result of both votes are unchanged -- they still pass. But some people who voted were not listed. Here are the correct results. ************************* rec.food.historic: "yes" votes (250): "John F. Macpherson, Jr." <71220.3051@CompuServe.COM> adzhoss@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Dutch) akatlas@Athena.MIT.EDU akerson@srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp) al279@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Albert Pang alg@cs.cornell.edu (Anne Louise Gockel) Andre Lehovich Andrew Draskoy ann@wag.caltech.edu arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) arkdr@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Dave Rindos) Arlene Topacio Brad Starkie HURN SMITH bbs.rp@goonsquad.Spies.COM (Robert Prentiss) "Kelly D. Beacham" Ben Golding "B. Kevin Edgar" bnostran@ds5000.dac.northeastern.edu "Bob Billson" Bob Wildfong botteron@bu-it.BU.EDU bq434@cleveland.Freenet.Edu brent@myka.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Brent J. Krawchuk) bu484@cleveland.Freenet.Edu buglady@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Aliza R. Panitz) bwalther@ccs.carleton.ca (Bill Walther) Roger Campbell carl@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Carl J.M. Alexander) Kelly Lynn Carney carroll@asw.ds.boeing.com (Bill Carroll) cbenson@adobe.com (Craig Benson) Alan Deacon Sally Lynch cctimar@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Cary Timar) Chris Seabrook ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas) Cheri Campbell chicks@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Christopher Hicks) ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson) sunne!cjowett@abvax.icd.ab.com (Charles E. Jowett) claird@sugar.NeoSoft.Com (Cameron Laird) close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close) codge@festival.Canal.ORG (Codge) coleman@leland.stanford.edu Colette Goodyear cplma@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Lynn Alford) Louise Crago dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams) dales@tekcci.cci.tek.com (Dale D. Snell) Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM DANCER@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU danf@sherpa.com ("Dan Ford") Dave Uebele "David Forster" David Taylor davidg@polvadera.dartmouth.edu (David Gelhar) davidsen@crd.GE.COM (bill davidsen) "Deborah B. Barber" dbell@cup.portal.com Douglas P Brownfield david director friedman "Denise M. Cuevas" dfw@thumper.bellcore.com (Doris Woods) dhallford@sciences.sdsu.edu djdeeds@hac2arpa.hac.com (Deanna J. Deeds) djoyce@black.clarku.edu (Dave Joyce) Don Dillon donna@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donna Whitlinger) dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) dspicer@orca.fhcrc.org (Debbie Spicer) Dwight Starr DUNHAM_JERRY@tandem.com eisen@kopf.HQ.Ileaf.COM (Carl West) emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) EMW@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au Sean Philip Engelson eps@cs.SFSU.EDU erich@wubios.wustl.edu (Erich Schraer) eurquhar@sfu.ca fenwick@w0x0f.clipper.ingr.com (Stephen Fenwick) fleisch2@husc.harvard.edu (Maximilian Fleischman) crash!loral!fm@nosc.mil (Frank Morrison) foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com Frank Hamlin gdunn@vlbacc.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Gene Dunn) gere@calvin.stanford.edu (Susan Gere) goodman@crl.ucsd.edu (Judith Goodman (UCSD)) Greg_Dawson@mindlink.bc.ca (Greg Dawson) Gretchen Miller h2co@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Candace O'Connor) habs@acf3.NYU.EDU (Harry A. B. Shapiro) BETH HAMM James Harvey haynes@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Lori Haynes) hedlund@reed.edu (Marc Hedlund) heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr) Helge Hauglin Laura Holst Terri Huggett "Henry (H.W.) Troup" IBOWMAN@beach.gal.utexas.edu (INCI BOWMAN) Shirley Woods J.Deakin@sheffield-city-poly.ac.uk j.guy@trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) Jack Campin jamys@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Godley) janet@saffron.Stanford.EDU JORGE BELA-KINDELAN jchokey@leland.stanford.edu jclose@chesapeake.ads.com (Jeff Close) jde@molokini.unify.com (Jeff Evarts) "Jeff Brooks" jerry@teetot.acusd.edu (Jerry Stratton) jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu John G Dobnick "Jim Ellingson" JLM%SLACVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu "Jenni Sheehey" Johanna.Uhlin@ludd.luth.se johnson@ssv004.ssd.loral.com (Christopher Johnson) Joseph_Murdock@NeXT.COM (Joseph Murdock) jtrimble@sdf.lonestar.org (John Trimble) justin@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Justin du Coeur MKA Mark Waks) Tairatelorp Julie A. Kangas kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley) kej@dsc.com (Karin E. Jones) Brent Kellmer Kenneth C. Rich kevin@iscmed.med.ge.com (Kevin Sears x3-5160) kha@cs.brown.edu (Katrina Avery) Karolen I. Paularena kls@whq-top.DaytonOH.NCR.COM ktk@nas.nasa.gov (Katy T. Kislitzin) Eileen Kupstas larrys@cc.snow.edu Laura Gillespie Laura M. Edwards lewin@asterix.ipgp.jussieu.fr (LEWIN Eric) lgold@Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) lgolder@hoh.mbl.edu (Linda or Robert Golder) Linda Wald Ross Livingston lliou@sdcc3.UCSD.EDU (Lily Liou ) "Linda F. Little" luke@modus.sublink.org (Luciano Mannucci) lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden, x2487) malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy) manes@bu-pub.bu.edu mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann) mauthe@aclcb.purdue.edu mccombi@cs.rpi.edu (I-Heng McComb) mccoy@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jim Mccoy) Beth McLaughlin mcspdx!adpgate!martin@udc.urbana.mcd.mot.com med@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au (Marion Diamond) Michelle Hamilton mgolden@zip.eecs.umich.edu "Michele M. Kapur" Michael Pope Marc D Rovner mrudul@saathi.ernet.in (Ms. Mrudul Bapat) Mike Topliff David Auerbach nick@brimbank.pub.uu.oz.au (Nick Langmaid) nkn@Solbourne.COM (Neil Nelson) Paul Palmer Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz pat@mtl.mit.edu Patt Bromberger Paula Burch Po Shan Cheah pcg@panix.com (Paul Gallagher) pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close) pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard ) perkins@msupa.pa.msu.edu (George J Perkins) Peter.Parnes@ludd.luth.se philbo@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Philip Gross (philbo)) philo@einstein (Philip R. Obermarck) Adina Adler "Paul Harrington (Reptile)" pjh@eng.cam.ac.uk (P.J. Hogben) "Ron Pluth" phil diamond Ken Pollard PSANTUCCI@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU QXJ@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU Alice Ramirez "LCDR Michael E. Dobson" rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (R. D. Keys) Rebecca_Clarke@NeXT.COM Harris Boldt Edelman ESO Technical Support 23-Jun-1992 0909 rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman) rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms) rleroux1@sol.UVic.CA (Roger Leroux) "R. Mark Jones" Robin Rosenbaum rogerp@amgen.com (Roger Parks) root@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sys Admin (williams)) ross@unirsvl.RSVL.UNISYS.COM russellb@cc.snow.edu sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) Saul Tannenbaum schlumpf%uimrl5.dnet@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Horses horses everywhere and not a one to ride.) schuldy@bedford.progress.COM (Mark Schuldenfrei) "Stephen (local 6019)" shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) shel@is.rice.edu (Michelle D Johnson) shimeall@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall) Eric Sieferman sigar@ifi.uio.no "Janice A Singer" Seismo Malm Sherry Modestino quick!srg@quick.com (Spencer Garrett) ssmith@xocolatl.com (Shannon Smith) tosh!starta@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (John Starta) stu@valinor.mythical.com swildner@channelz.GUN.de "ACAD3A::SXRMH1" taddiken@cae1.srl.ford.com (Russ Taddiken) Ted.Taylor@p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor) Terry Partis thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com thy@banshee.camb.inmet.com (Tom Yelton) tlanders@atlastele.com (Troy Landers) Thomas Lee Horton todd@da_bearz.Central.Sun.COM (Todd Mann) todd@reed.edu (Todd Ellner) Tom_Moser@vos.stratus.com "Thomas W. Strong, Jr." tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life? Ha!) Anthony Thomas Cusack Matthias Urlichs VANFLEETR@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU velde@gopher.Stanford.EDU (Francois Velde) vusl@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (VU Science Library) waks@world.std.com (Justin and Jane) wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald) Nancy wcr@rsch.oclc.org (Will C. Ray) Bill Venables young@serum.clpd.Kodak.COM (Rich Young (x37176)) Nick Zentena "no" votes (37): arnej@lise.unit.no ask@cblph.att.com (Arthur S Kamlet) "Brian Excarnate" cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher) douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis) fang@math.berkeley.edu (Cavan Fang) "Adam W. Feigin" wolves!ggw@duke.cs.duke.edu (Gregory G. Woodbury) homebru!smith!dick@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com jcowling@nero.UVic.CA (Jim Cowling) johnf@apollo.hp.com Joel Sax Roland Kaltefleiter ked01@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) kenney@hsi86.hsi.com (Brian Kenney) telesys!kreed@telesys.tnet.com@ennews.eas.asu.edu (Kevin W. Reed) larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence) lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) mark@hsi86.hsi.com (Mark Sicignano) Michael.Bradshaw.|.If.pro.is.the.opposite.of.con@Athena.MIT.EDU, mhpower@stan.mit.edu Michael Bryan moriarty@tc.fluke.com (Jeff Meyer) scifi!njs@uunet.UU.NET (Nicholas J. Simicich) Paul.Tvete@ii.uib.no peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce) plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) "K. W. WELCH" rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) rmosher@mdd.comm.mot.com (Richard Mosher) schaller@hsi86.hsi.com (Dave V. Schaller) Marc Moorcroft soltesz@cnad.ml.nec.com^I(John Soltesz) Sven Heinicke tbd@neuro.duke.edu (Tristan Davies) tgt@cbfsa.att.com Phil Weiss ************************* rec.food.sourdough: "yes" votes (232): DOUG <@vms3.macc.wisc.edu:DOUG@SEL2.DecNet> adzhoss@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Dutch) AIW@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU akerson@srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp) alg@cs.cornell.edu (Anne Louise Gockel) amyk@netcom.com (Amy Kurtzman) Andre Lehovich Andy.Behrens@coat.com Andy Bond annie@cs.swarthmore.edu (Annie Fetter) arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) artc@Atex.Kodak.COM Matthew Asplund HURN SMITH bae@auspex.com (Brian Ehrmantraut) barker@geology.wisc.edu (William Wayne Barker) Bob Belas blue@cam.nist.gov (Jim Blue) bndixon@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (dixon bradford n) bnoble@BACH.CODA.CS.CMU.EDU Bob Fields "Bob Billson" buglady@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Aliza R. Panitz) bwalther@ccs.carleton.ca (Bill Walther) Jerry Pelikan Roger Campbell carroll@asw.ds.boeing.com (Bill Carroll) "Ruthmary Macpherson" cbenson@adobe.com (Craig Benson) ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas) celia@ssc-bee.boeing.com (Celia H Modell) charlto@ubitrex.mb.ca (Mike Charlton) Cheri Campbell sunne!cjowett@abvax.icd.ab.com (Charles E. Jowett) close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close) codge@festival.Canal.ORG (Codge) cplma@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Lynn Alford) crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) d-yang@ground.cs.columbia.edu (David Yang) Jana Krause dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams) Deborah Jones dales@tekcci.cci.tek.com (Dale D. Snell) Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM DANCER@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU danf@sherpa.com ("Dan Ford") davechao@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (David Yung-Min Bowser Chao) Dave Jerzycki Dave Uebele David Taylor davidsen@crd.GE.COM (bill davidsen) Deborah Branton dbell@cup.portal.com DBERNATH@jpl-pds.jpl.nasa.gov Dave Sill debbie@concannon.llnl.gov (Debra A. Callahan) decker@ariel.cs.umass.edu delisle@eskimo.celestial.com (Ben Delisle) Life is real? djdeeds@hac2arpa.hac.com (Deanna J. Deeds) dkl@xcluud.sccsi.com (David Karl Leikam) Don Dillon donna@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donna Whitlinger) douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis) Deb Perkins Douglass J. Renze dspicer@orca.fhcrc.org (Debbie Spicer) dsr@philabs.Philips.Com (Deborah S. Rech) Dwight Starr dudek@ksr.com (Glen Dudek) "Tim (T.K.) Dudley" dwyer@zoo.cs.umass.edu ELEMENT@XRAY.BYU.EDU EMW@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au julie england erich@wubios.wustl.edu (Erich Schraer) eurquhar@sfu.ca Frank Plab fang@math.berkeley.edu (Cavan Fang) Frank Eugene Kietzke Margot Flowers crash!loral!fm@nosc.mil (Frank Morrison) Fes-Mike fmmoore@Athena.MIT.EDU Frank Hamlin fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Katie Fritz) gandhi3@husc.harvard.edu gdunn@vlbacc.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Gene Dunn) grady@sfu.ca (A. Brian Grady) gypsy@jupiter.nmt.edu (Christina White) BETH HAMM James Harvey heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr) gtephx!herrj@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Jim Herr) "Henry (H.W.) Troup" hyler@ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler) IBOWMAN@beach.gal.utexas.edu (INCI BOWMAN) sybase!icer@Sun.COM (Eric Stromberg) jackson1@ihlpl.att.com (Michael Jackson) Jane Marcus janet@saffron.Stanford.EDU "SCOTT JANZ" "JCARSON.US" jclose@ads.com jimp@uucp (Jim Prall) JMCEVOY@CC.CEU.EDU Johanna.Uhlin@ludd.luth.se johnson@ssv004.ssd.loral.com (Christopher Johnson) jrc@acd4.acd.com ( Janis Clark ) Tairatelorp Julie A. Kangas Kenneth C. Rich kevin@iscmed.med.ge.com (Kevin Sears x3-5160) kevin@simd.stanford.edu (Kevin W. Rudd) kowtko@cogsci.edinburgh.ac.uk ktk@nas.nasa.gov (Katy T. Kislitzin) Lawrence Allen Hite larrys@cc.snow.edu "Linda L. Dujmic" lewin@asterix.ipgp.jussieu.fr (LEWIN Eric) lgold@Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) Linda Wald Ross Livingston lliou@sdcc3.UCSD.EDU (Lily Liou ) lopresti robert Lori (L.) Ciaralli luke@modus.sublink.org (Luciano Mannucci) lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden, x2487) malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy) mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann) mauthe@aclcb.purdue.edu Michael.Bradshaw.|.If.pro.is.the.opposite.of.con@Athena.MIT.EDU, mccoy@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jim Mccoy) Michael Cerreto meb4593@galileo.boeing.com (Michael Bain) mgolden@zip.eecs.umich.edu "Michele M. Kapur" Tom Molnar Marianne Reed Marc D Rovner mrudul@saathi.ernet.in (Ms. Mrudul Bapat) mthome@BBN.COM Mike Folsom David Auerbach nkn@Solbourne.COM (Neil Nelson) Nicki A Stassen Lantz O6Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU objy!server!linda@Sun.COM Oral pab@lucid.com (Peter Benson) Penny Padgett Paul Palmer Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu Patt Bromberger Po Shan Cheah pcg@panix.com (Paul Gallagher) pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close) pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard ) pebrier@srv.PacBell.COM (Paul Brierley) penneyj@SLC.COM (D. Jason Penney) Peter.Parnes@ludd.luth.se Philip Gross (philbo) "Ron Pluth" Ken Pollard pon@etec.com (Michael Pon) popcorn@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Valerie Mates) pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU Alice Ramirez ramsey@CS.UCLA.EDU rbnsn@nyosi.sig.com (Ken Robinson) rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix) rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman) rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms) STUART rlewis@cactus.org (Roger C. Lewis) "R. Mark Jones" rodahl@watsci.waterloo.edu rogerp@amgen.com (Roger Parks) "Greg Roody - (508) 841-7122" root@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sys Admin (williams)) ross@unirsvl.RSVL.UNISYS.COM russellb@cc.snow.edu s3451843@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Amy Gomersal) sandy@Cyanamid.COM (Sandy Silverman) Bonnie Allen schatz@void.rtsg.mot.com (Steve Schatz) ntmtv!scoter@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Patrick Thompson) senetza@xi.uleth.ca (Len Senetza) sgl@spatial.com (Steven G. Lanaghen) shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) Dennis Sheldrick s/w support simona@panix.com (Simona Nass) "Janice A Singer" "KAREN SLUZENSKI" Seismo Malm soltesz@cnad.ml.nec.com^I(John Soltesz) ss@panix.com (Steve Steinberg) steved@longs.lance.colostate.edu Carol Stidham Stu Labovitz sukmi@francis.b30.ingr.com (Sukmi Lim) Susan McIntosh svengali@svens.lrk.ar.us (Steve Hyatt) swildner@channelz.GUN.de "ACAD3A::SXRMH1" Ted.Taylor@p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor) Teri Tracey thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com thy@banshee.camb.inmet.com (Tom Yelton) Thomas Lee Horton todd@reed.edu (Todd Ellner) tracy@apollo.hp.com troyer@ips.id.ethz.ch tyk@npac.syr.edu Anthony Thomas Cusack VANFLEETR@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU vida@bucrsb.bu.edu wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald) Nancy wcr@rsch.oclc.org (Will C. 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