Re: FAQ Maintainers Digest for 2/5/97

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Chris Lewis (clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca)
Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:44:01 -0500


On Feb 6, 18:47, "E. Allen Smith" wrote:
} Subject: Re: FAQ Maintainers Digest for 2/5/97
} From: Brad Knowles <brad@his.com>
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} > I reiterate my position -- I utterly refuse to give a single
} >angstrom on this matter. Other, more effective techniques are
} >already available, and the only ones that will be hurt are all NetCom
} >users (since FAQs won't be left around nearly as long as they would
} >have been, assuming they make it through at all), and all users
} >everywhere else who have to deal with the dreckage and bletchery the
} >NetCom unwashed masses cause.

You may wish to consider that this is netcom's lookout, and that
if they're implementing bad policies, their users will suffer,
and then netcom will suffer. It seems to me that the check-and-balance
is built in.

} > That is *precisely* what AOL is being held responsible for over
} >in list-managers. If you don't want to hold anyone responsible for
} >any of their users, feel free to continue to hold that opinion.
} >However, you are in the minority, and until you change your mind,
} >you'd better not complain about any AOL users.
}
} At least my viewpoint on list-managers is that AOL isn't
} _responsible_ for its users... but their overall behavior (which
} will be influenced by AOL's actions) will affect how I treat
} anything emerging from aol.com unless I have countervailing
} information.
} The situation with NetCom is that they are doing things
} that actively _decrease_ the likelihood of their users being
} educated. Now, they may be doing this in ignorance, but if not...

As a point to ponder - most of the spams coming out of netcom are
people who already know the evils of spamming, but do so regardless.
AOL has much tougher and consistent anti-abuse policies than netcom,
and acts very much faster to enforce them. Yes, a lot of trash comes
out of AOL - because they have vastly more as-yet-uneducated-about-
the-net users than anyone else - simply because they're orders of
magnitude larger than anyone else.

Netcom's policy enforcement is inconsistent with itself, let alone
everyone else, capricious, and extremely slow. I had someone
at netcom mailbombing me daily for 6 weeks before they finally
noticed my almost-daily complaints.

On a per-capita basis, AOL is much less a problem than netcom.

-- 
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