Re: So, are Tom Fine's archives ever going to work again?

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Henk Penning (henkp@cs.ruu.nl)
Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:15:39 +0100 (MET)


Dave Schweisguth writes:

[ first part deleted ]

| Will we always need the OSU/Utrecht/etc. ueberarchives?

First: the main goal of the news.answers project was to make
archiving (and accessing) of usenet faqs (pip's) easier.
If there is no need for an archive, there is no need for news.answers.

| - They get the FAQ on the WWW, but this is becoming less important as the
| ability to run a WWW server becomes more common.

Utrecht keeps an independent news.answers ftp-archive,
this is the core activity and 90% of the work.
We put the stuff on WWW to increase faq readership and for the exercise.

| - They do the formatting, but there's at least one do-it-yourself tool that
| may already make some people happy, and more are sure to follow. I'd rather
| see a good redistributable formatting tool than a new FAQ archive site.

Utrecht doesn't do formatting. We just 'activate' urls.
Faqs are straight, 100% intact.

| - They collect all FAQs into a single list, but if one wants a question
| answered one doesn't care if the answer is in an FAQ as such or just on any
| old WWW page. Probably not one of the non-computer-heads around me knows
| about the OSU etc. archives, but they all know how to hit the search button
| in Netscape, and it gets results.

A single list ??

Utrecht adds the structure given by the archive-name and newsgroup
hierarchies, and there are some links gathered from the Url:-line.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Search tools now try to cover the whole net, and do so very well.
I don't know if this will last, or if there will be a place for
smaller archives. We'll see.

| I don't want to put down Tom Fine, Henk, etc.'s work, just raise some
| questions.

The purpose of the Utrecht archive is to make it usable as a collection.
That is why we try to make it easy to jump around.
It is not our goal to 'improve' the faqs.

Conclusion: an archive should treat 'internal' links to faqs
and links to 'official' www versions as equal as possible.

The proposal to extend the usage of Url:-lines makes that easier.

| | Dave Schweisguth

Henk Penning

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