Created: 1/13/1961

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Copies to. Charge d'Affairea, Canadian ifcbasay, hoeoow.

Chief, EuropeanTTAWA.

Meetings with Mr. Pankovski, State Solentlfie and Technical Coarelttee

i* Canadian Department of Kines and Technical

entlon,ed to the Charge d'Affairee that hr. Pankovski, ofSoiSntifio and Technical Ccanittee wiehed to nee* oe. Hr. Pankovski laiaon JiS*


interested to make hr. PankovskiU acquaintance and arranged that he andBr. Harrleon eome to my hotel after work on Monday,

^ eneral one, ranging over the field of Intereate between tho (kwaaittee and Canada and eaoh of our types of work, during which Hr. Pankovski mentioned that for two years) he had beenMUltpry Attache in


h. behalf of Wheeler, President of Ontario; building

Materialsho visitad ths Soviet Unionad officially

personal uule arising out of aoqueintsnce ln Turkey, and that the nameperson would be on

meeting was short as Dr. Harrleon end Hr. Pankovski

inner ongageoont, and, at Mr. Pankovaki's suggestion, arranged that he would come to my hotelrink ofter work on Wednesday. January U.

II looked at the letter received from Nr. Ponkovoki

lit turned out toulky envelope, doubly sealed with tape and without Ithe name of the addressee. ecided to return the envelope to IKr. Pankovski ot first opportunity with the explanationas in no fwsltlon to pass over unknown contents to unidentified Americans.

6i* Wednesday7 Mr. Pankovski dropped in and 1

offeredrinkhair, he taking tho former, butlatter as It faced onto the door, and instead asked if he mighta divan on the opposite side of the room. appened to haveplayer on, and in view of this start of proceedings kept itMr. Pankovaki's

started tho conversation on topics of our mutual

interestsie the State Scientific and Technical Committee. Hr. Pankovski almost immediately aekedad delivered the letter, toepliedad notaa in no position to deliver unknown contents ori behalf of Soviet cltlaons. Ha took the letter.


ranxovsklsaaevhnt agitated upon first

entrance andsesmed to regain full ccncposure. ried to cot tha trend of conversation and disease only those natters which sens strictly within ths realm of hie itoraal liaison function on behalf of the State Scientiflo and Technical Committee. This was to no avail and Mr. Penkovnki persistently reverted to the theme of the importance for hit to meet with someone fromtabeaey. ronpted none of hie sufaoequont conversation and throughout tried to smphnstse the Importance to ay position on cotmnsrclal matters of developing normal relations with the ^tate Solentifio and ?eehnleal Consaittee,

said that although he could perhaps understand ay

action In not undertaking too-between with theia fate was row in ayeeald not Inform anyone, (presumably the Soviets). He said he had been trying desperately the last six aontha to find some way of approaching the Americans, and thought that with his present position in ths Stats Scientific and Technical Poanittse, Canndiaa officials would tasks thla poeolble. Ho offered to show a* ths contents of the original letter,eclined, and said that additionalo gisgjt^ on bal Llstll lee, it contained his psreenal letters to each of President Elsenhower and 'Preaidsnt-oleot Kennedy, He said he had hoped to peas on more documents, thereupon taking out of hisarge thickly packed envelops,

determination remained, be said, to contactto whom he wanted to pass valuable information and that awas to get out of the Soviet Union with his wife aadin panning he mentioned that he was experiencing financial problems,

he askedrrange for him to. Embassy, either through an Invitation to the Canadiana luncheon invitation, and if neither of these, that* at least XAmericans of his interest, he explained his Inability to. embassy because of the Soviet police guards, and that oven at

.the State Scientific and technical Committee It warn an almost Invariable rule that two Soviets oust be presentoreigner eel la. He offered *ms his home phone number,xpressed myself willing to have, but 'suggestingould be able to reach him at his office.

declined everything resulting from this one-elded

gushing flow, mentioning onlyould hops to bs in touch with him at the State Solentifio and technical Committee on our continuing comsaeroial Interests. nvited him to stay for dinner but be said he Just didn't feel up to it and so ended ourinute conversation in Wjgllsh.

am somewhatoss to assess ths motivations

behind these meetings. Mr. Penkovskl isleasant personality and would appear to have reasonable capacity. The rush of events in our brief meetings certainly instilled as with deepest caution* lie apparently is ths type that has little hesitancy to ask for personal favours as evidenced by his requests to Dr. Harrison for various items from Canada such as salve for scaeaa, etc, which he assumes Dr. Harrison will send to the ^nbassy to bs passed over. He certainly went intofor detail In our conversations in cementing on Betters such aa having the record player on, the hasards of phoning his office, repeating that his fate was in my hands, specifically mentioning documents and

Iletters, expressing bis regret thatee not quite convinced

jof hie sincerity of purpose in wishing to contact. ttsbassy, etc;

ja partial explanation might be the melodramtlo of hie previous position

jas military attaohs.

Very obvlouely hla position with thente Seisntlfle and Technical Ceanitteeinor one, with low salary,reat Sons down froo his nilltsry career. It la likely that he-laaruntlad _oUUen.

If he is honest in hie professed desire to pass information of value to the Acerloane end have he and hla fsully leave tha Soviet Union, be la dangerously talkative. If theee ere not themotivations, association of Canadian personnel with him, except at the strictest official level,is highly undesirable.

William Van Tliet.

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