MEETING AT THE WHITE HOUSE 19 DECEMBER 1963

Created: 12/19/1963

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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

SUBJECT: Mooting at tho White Ilouao3 PRESENT: Tho President

Tho State Dopartnent: Dnder Secretary Georgo W. Ball, Deputy Under Socretary U. Aloxls Johnson, Ambassador at Largo Llowellyn Thompson, Assistant Secrotary for Inter-American Affairs Edwin Martin, Coordinator of Cuban Affairs John H. Crlmmlns.

Tho Defense Department: Deputy Secrotary Roer/ell Gllpatrlc, Socretary of the Amy Cyrus Vance.

Joint Chiefs of Staff: General Wheeler.

USIA: Deputy Director Donald M. Wilson.

The Treasury Department: Secretary Douglas Dillon,

The White House Staff: Executive Assistant to the Proaldont UcGeorgo Bundy, Messrs. Ooorge Reedy and wi ii Lama Uoyora.and Gordon Chaso.

CIA: General Marshallarter. Messrs. Richard Helms and Dosraond PltzGorald.

Tho President arrived at the neotlng approximately flvo nlnutos earlyprior to tho arrival of several membera of the group including Mr. Bundy. ormalommoncod tho schedulod briefing on the Agenoy Cuban program at the urging of tho President and despite tho activities of the Prosidontlal photographer.

Tho President appeared lntorested ln tho number of ngents Lnslde Cuba but made no particular comment concerning the program until tho subject of economic denial was Ho asked to bo told what additional measures could bo takon to atep up tho donlal program. aid that tho

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principal soft spots among freo world countries appeared at tbe present ti.no to be Canada,. and Spain. Tho Presidentemorandum setting forth specifics concerning leaks of economically strategic ItenB fron those throe countries togothor vlth recommendations as io what could be dono to stop these leaks, no requested Under Secretary Ball to prepare to make demarches to tho govern-aonts of these throo countries as veil as any others engaged In the Cuba trade contrary to our interests. He appeared particularly Interoated in the subject ofdenial and returned to It several times.

rief description of ourconnection vlth promoting disaffection anong thetho President said that It did not seem towe had gone very far along this line and thatthose concerned in Cuba natters, includinghave to face the "grand Jury" (of domesticto account for our progress in our attemptsa solution to the Cuban situation. ointedtho program being preaentod was, vlth thethe economic denial iten,ovort programrun at full capacity, vould tax the capabilities ofservicesin otbor words, that if novmeasures against Cuba vers to bo undertaken,have to be vlthln the overt field.

a briof description of tuo sabotageprogram tho subject of the proposedvas discussed. After hearing the pros and consstated that he did not feel that tho presenta good one to conduct an operation ofoss than SO percent ohance of success. that ho felt that such an operation. Ifight cause the Soviets to move in thovlth respect to, increase theiraid or their military presence.- Recognizing thatof raids wouldad morale effecthe agreed that low risk operations, witheconomic and psychological impact, should be He further stated that planning for suchas Matanzas should be continued. Generaltho possibility of air strikes against majorautonomous groups. This was discussed and it wasin viow of the fact that preparations would tokothree months, these preparations should proceedquestion re-examined at the time that capabilitiesperfected.

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the question of autonomous groups the President asked the cost of thoso operations (five millione also asked tho cost of Cuban operations for the currentillion dollars) and the total Agency budget.

The Intelligence sucnary concerning Cuba prepared by General Carter for tho sooting was examined.

Mr. Bundy thon reviewed. policyis Cuba. Ho then wonthock list of possible new coursos of action takon from tho Department of State paper prepared for tho Decembertanding Group mooting. Unilateral actions presented were:

Air attacks by our autonomous groups. No furthor discussion.

Soloctivo relaxation. controls against exile Groups ln Florida. No comment on

Mr. Bundy's generally unfavorable prosontatlon.

Military folnts. No comment on generally unfavorable presentation.

Low-level reconnaissance flights. Comment by Assistant Socretary Martin concerning tho value of keeping open the franchlso for low-level flights. Acknowledgement of certain valuo to tho intelligence community. No decision requested.

Extension of efforts to eliminate free world shipping from the Cuba trade. No decision requested.

Presidential declaration. policy on Cuba doslgnod to stimulate anti-Castro dissidence in the armed forcos.

Mr. Dundy's comments indicated that thoro was roomtronger statement than that made by President Kennedy in Miami.

with tho Soviets and the Cubans. and no comcent.

(S) Other forms of covert actions. Not specified or elaborated.

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In connection with bilateral and multilateral actions lnvolvlnc the cooperation of the OAS and nations of the Caribbean, Mr. Dundy stated that tho nature and import of the recently discovered arms cache in Vcnoy.uolaoint of departure for such actions as soarch and seizuro on the high boos or nn OAS-uponsored quarantine against arms shipments, f

Mr. Martin then briofod concerning OAS action with regard to tho arms cacbe. He said that the committee appointed by the OAS to investigate had called for additional evidence from the Venezuelan government which would take two to three weeks to assemble. He said that ho felt tbat the OAS report would be out In mid-January although the question of Cuban defenso against the Venezuelan charges had not yet been resolved, Mr. Bundy referred to tho efforts being mado to increase the effectiveness ofof arms smugglers In Central America and referred to the possibility of an OAS-sponsored search and solzuro on the high soas.

9. Under Socrotary Dall stated that the Department of Justice has warnedumber of students, Bomo of more respectable stripe than tho lost group which vloltod Cuba, were planning to try to visit Cuba during the Christmas acation and that thoro is evidence of larger numbors planning to do tbe earno thing during the summer. Ho said that tho Attorney General was bothered by this and bad suggested the relaxation of present rules concerning travol to Cuba. Mr. Ball sold that the Department of Stato is tentatively opposed to such relaxation particularly because of its effect on Latin American countries. The Prosldent strongly concurred with the Department of State position. Ho said that he did not propose to change or relax present regulations.

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