TELEPHONE COVERSATION WITH JOHN HANFORD, SENATOR LUGAR'S STAFF

Created: 1/23/1995

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memorandum for the record

subject: telephone conversation with john hanford, senator lugar's scarf

friday,poke with john hanfordattached article. senator lugar had spoken with jimthe article onanuary. woolsey, in turn, hadstudeman to follow up.

the conversation with mr.onfirmed that:

executive orders, one on generaland one on imagery declassification, are in preparation and will be issued in the coming weeks.

imagery along the lines described in the article might or might not be included in the declassified materials.

effort is now underway to review imagery of the mt. ararat area in turkey as partearch for noah's ark. an extensive effort had been undertaken two or three years ago (including

a look at both overhead and tactical imagery without success).

hanford thanked me for the information. hehe had accompanied senator lugarhite housethe bush tenure at which bob gates (then at the nsc)one of the old images of the mt. ararat area. mr.that imagery showed something sticking out from the icethat it could have been almost anything.

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SUBJECT: Telephone Conversation with John Hanford Senator Lugar's Staff

4. nvitedanford to call me directly in case Senator Lugar wanted anyon this subject.

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Executive Director

Attachment:

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Tbe photo was tbe subjectBS television prime time [wc-bout special aired oohe LxredibJe- Discovery of Noah's Art.'* On (ba( show, several retired military pilots claimed (ox the Peerages bad coaliry pbetea ctabject."

There have been oatrxrous attempts ia tbe past to discover -Noah's Ark" on Ml. Aram. ixtaLaj much publicizedorganized by US. asoosaut iiaone cf ttist eapediacss produced aiy coocbiSire reschs. Wbat ccowced Taylorbe soQeodcirythe nraoml pbceo was the cc^finriatJcfl be rectivej from eoe of Bk esteenxd narocs of the US. intelligence coaunoru-tj', George A. Carver. Jr.served as clcpurv lor National lntetligenee lo two former CIA Directors and as tae. intetLiteocc officer in NATO. He is the only person is the history of (be CIA lo be twice awarded tht Distinguished

Jatettrcact MedaJ. Taylor met Dr.oum Table meeting held oa March3 in Pabn Beach. Frooda. Io fbe cpesDoa aod answer scutes folowmg Carver's speech, Taylor asked bin If be had aay Mmctcou OS tbe "Aram Anomaly" photo. Carver sax!o remember tt tbe time there sere aome picrares ukee. aod ftert were dear ia&cxont that ibert was soaxttic* or ot Ml Ararat, wbxb was rather strange There were varioos arrixological esj^diDoas balmoonled. Tbe TUrkhb goverameDt was not loo (hriLed about fipportng mem, because it wasinto an area mat was pobbcaOy dicey from Ihe Turks' point ofarver added thai "ibe 'I !'n h. first five books of ibe Bible, might not be all that bad ar history abo" since il Ulkrdaboui Noah's Art: landlrig oa Ml Ararat.

Frankellow a( the Center of Strategic and Iolerniiioaal Studies, who had 'i worked with Dr. Carver io tbe past as hisn various projects, cccfinned lot TDN thatncaaly" ctoto in questiool

The TDN has learoedenior roenberow aware ol the rase and ' ticst inhe CIA and (be ftniie Hotsc. as weQ as ibe Natioca! Sccarirv Couacil for inclusion ofIA phcwi wimri the apecled presidcwaJcarce dose to the CIA cccfjrmed for TDN lhai (be directive "mirhc be signed soon" by Presideni Giatoo, Yet tie IVbie House relraiDed boo coafinniag cr denying ibe ilirectite and itim cot athorued io talk to press oohile House press official loM TDK. CNNTim; masaaoe we apccicd lo do special sto-

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