AGENDA9 COMEX MEETING
Approval of winutes of9 meeting.
Chairman and Secretary Remarks. . .
- COMEX perspective
DoD Activities
Status (Herb Lewis)
Technologies Project (John Heger)
- (Internationalohn Hager)
State report on exchange developments (Ed Hurwitz or Yale Richmond)
f COKEX objectives
Approvedj
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* DIRECTOR OF CEKTftAi. INTELLIGENCE Commiltee on Exchanges MINUTES OF FORTY-NINTH MEETING
Cha iman
Deputy Chairman
Air Force
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CIA
DIA
DoE
FDI
Navy
Tre.isury
of State
Ass'>ciate Members
Commerce ICA
Justice Dept./ICIS NASA
LtC. James Dearlove Mr. RogerMr. Michael J. Steinbeck Mr. Howard E. Ruskie (A) Mr. Louis Grant Absent Absent
Mr. John Martens
Mr. Yale Richmond
Mr. William B. Kark (A)
Absent
or Invitees) Present
FSTC Navy FBI
DoD/Policy Review
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STIC
Ms. Teresa C.erbert
Col. John Hager.
Dr. Julian Nail (guest speaker)
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Minutes of the9 meeting are approved as submitted.
hairman's Report
* Thr Chairman .oted thatWBEtf^WvfflB would be of the National Intelligence Medalm, at the CIA Auditorium. HeCOMEX attendees to attend this ceremony. He thatfJBH| would receive the CIA Career.
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OMEX Objectives and Discussion
The Deputy Chairran noted his favorable impressions based on meetings with members and their principals. He commented that the objectives he-has identified0 met with enthusiastic approval. COMEXery definite role to play in the defensive aspects of exchanges and commercial contacts (an assessment of the potential for US :ethnology loss); the Intelligence gain aspect]
feeding the COMEX data- base and those in other Community components to ensureeservoir of substantive data is available to analytical and collection components .to support the first two points.'
most important task before the Committee is to concentrate on those technologies that are important for the US Government to protect. Presently, we do notorking document that identifies the critical areas of existing or emerging technologies that might be compromised through lacV of adequate defenses.
The objectives for FYill concentrate on the evaluative aspects of the exchange program to develop more definitive data on which to base policy decisions by State and the regulatory agencies. Thereumber of functional refinements that are being worked on within the Secretariat and member agencies. The most pressing need is to have in hand the list of critical technologies being developed
by DoD with DoE participation. Once the basic list is available it must be scaled to the non-technical person if it is to be of maximum utility. This probably means COMEXontractual arrangement if we canompetent contractor.
once the detailed list
ias been prepared it will be submittedraft proposal for Community review and approval.
From the .technology list comes.the identification and greement-af the analytical components to provide value judgments on" technological loss/intelligence gain regarding those technologies for which they have responsibility. This is the competency list that will permit the Secretariat to task the most appropriate organizations for an intelligence opinion based on their prior agreement to respond. Others also may make any appropriateich will be dulyn developing the Committee position. DoE took issue with the expressed contractu/al aspects of relating organizational competency to the technology being discussed. It was noted that each organization determines how they want to relate to the problem. However, if they have by charter .responsibilities forubject then they also are obliged to'provide value judgments in response to COMEX requests.
A US facilities listogical extension of our efforts to defend US technologies from possible compromise. It is necessary to know where these critical technologies are being worked on and if possible the key US scientists and. academicians engaged in the activity. This tool would help the regulatory agencies take initial action to* deny orrogram proposal based on the knowledge" that the facility in essence iso-be-protected list."
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is the target for starting the-Sect file conversion and doing tho Community feasibility study. The Secretariat cannot function effectively and support the participants' withoutrogram. This implies that one of our basic problems, that of acquiring timely and complete data on the exchange transaction, Kill bc solved. The need toomplete picture of the transaction at the time the analysts are requested toalue judgment.on which the COMEX bases its advisory still prevails.
To help in the development of these needed tools, the Secretariat has hired Mr. Joseph Dytrtart-time consultant. He will be working on several special projects beginning in9 andalued addition to the staff. Negotiations also have been initiated with the National Foreign Assessment Center to have several officers with basic scientific and East-West Trade experience assigned to the Secretariatotational basis. We are also investigating the possibilities of having member agencies assign personnel on detail to the Secretariat for periods as short as six months or as long-as two years. To have maximum effectiveness and utility "the Secretariat needs to be increased innd jointly staffed.
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eview of Exchange Activity
The review of exchange activity on the USSR was deferred until the October meeting.
tatus of DoD Directive .
The DoD directive'is moving through Pentagon coordination. Mr. Lewis reported that it should be ready inonth.
'.At this time other business was discussed including comments on the InterDepartmental Committee on Internal Security (ICIS) Subcommittee meeting which was held at the request-of COMEX to discuss the acquisition of more complete data on East Europeans Business Visa application. State agreed to request more data on the purpose and objective of the commercial visit."
The Chairman polled'the group on the value of data provided by COMEX particularly on how it feeds their data bases and thereby supports theirissionon-COMEX context. FBI found that it was useful as an alert to aid in informing their field offices that certain individuals would be in their areas.
Other member
organizations commented on the relative usefulness of
the data to support their analysis and collection tasking.
The establishmentew Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for International Programs and Technology was mentioned. This organization now will have responsibility for developing the critical technology list underherefore, COMEX is extremely interested in their progress. Col. Hager the newly designatedember of COMEXrief the group at the October meeting on the'new organization and the status of the critical technology list and other projects assigned tohat are of interest to COMEX.
riefing by the Chairman of STIC
The meeting adjourned briefly and reconvened toresentation from Dr. Julian Nail, the Chairman of the Scientific and Technical Intelligence Committee. Dr. Nail commented on the evaluative work done by STIC on the draftritical technology list. This effort was to determine
asic way who had the lead in technological development comparing the US, Soviet and Western industrial nations. The scale used range Th* procedure used was simple and direct. The STIC Secretariat hadwith those persons in the Coramunity who were competent to address defined technological developments in the geographical areas being considered. Dr. Nail commented in responseuestion from the Chairmanood SQT intelligence analyst should know the domestic as well as the foreign state-of-the-art developments in his assigned field.
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meeting adjourned0 hours^
Administrative Notes
.Deputy Chairman askcd.tJiat new .members and participants introduce themselves, tliese included:
- CIA Alternate Member Mr. Michael J.BI Member Mr. Roy G.BI Alternate Member Mr. HerbertoD/ISD Member Col. JohnoD/ODUSD/IPT Member
He also noted his disappointment that Department ofnot in attendance since they are most affected by Special efforts will be made to alert State
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