TAKE 8 OF MANY -- GORBACHEV URALS VISIT

Created: 4/27/1990

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EPLYINGUT POSSIBLE VERSIONS OF Tnr, DEVELOPMENT OF EVENTS IN. GORBACHEV SAID: WE HOPE TO ARRIVEOLITICAL RESOLUTION OF THE PROBLEM- UST SAY TO YOU AND TO THE COUNTRY THAT WE ARE UPEADERSHIP WHICH IS DISPLAYING AD^NTURISM AND IS SPECULATING ON DEMOCRACY. FOR, EVEN FOR THEATTERS PROPOSALS ARE PREPARED WHICH ARE SUBJECTED TO PRELIMINARY EXAMINATION IN THE SOVIETS AND ARE THEN PUT FORWARD FOR PEOPLE TO DISCUSS AND IT IS ONLY AFTER THIS THAT DECISIONS ARE MADE. HERE, HOWEVER, INASIC QUESTION OF THE FATE OF THE REPUBLIC AND OF THE PEOPLE LIVING INUESTION AFFECTING THE WHOLE POPULATION OF OUR MULTINATIONAL STATEriE DEPUTIES ASSEMBLED AT NIGHT, RAISED THEIR HANDS AND MADE THE DECISION. THIS DOES NOT COME WITHIN ANY FRAMEWORK OF DEMOCRACY.

I THINK THAT THE THIRD USSR CONGRES OF PEOPLES DEPUTIES ACTED CORRECTLY, AND WEHE PRESIDENT AND THE GOVERNMENTHAVE ONLY THE MANDATE OF THE CONGRESS: THE CONSTITUTIONAL STRUCTURE SHOULD BE RESTORED. IT IS NECESSARY TO RETURN TO THE POSITION WHICH EXISTED IN THE REPUBLIC ONARCH, AND EXAMINE THE QUESTION AFTER THIS. OTHERWISE, WHAT WILL HAPPEN? WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO RETURN TO THEIR OWN REPUBLICS (NON-LITHUANIANSHERE ARE

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WHAT WILL BE THE FATE OF THE 8EL0RUSSIAN LANDS? FURTHEREARS KLAIPEDA WAS IN GERMAN HANDS ANDESULT OF 7HE WAR WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE USSR AND, INSOFAR AS LITHUANIAART OF THE USSR IT WAS UNITED WITH THAT REPUBLIC. TODAY THE PEOPLE OF KALININGRAD ARE PUTTING FORWARD THE PROPOSAL TO UNITE KLAIPEDA WITH THEIR OBLAST.

FINALLY, HOW IS THE OIL, RAW MATERIAL, ETC. TO BE PAID FOR? IN FORIEGN CURRENCY? WE SHALL DISCUSS THAT, TOO. FOR THE "DIVORCE PROCESS" WHAT WILL BE NEEDED IS FIRST OFEFERENDUM. IT IS NECESSARY TO FIND OUT WHAT PEOPLE WILL SAY, AND THE LITHUANIANSERY SENSIBLEULTURED AND EDUCATED PEOPLE. LET THEM GIVE SOME THOUGHT AS TO WHICH PATH TO FOLLOW. IN MY OPINION THERE IS AN INCREASING NUMBER OF SOBER VOICES THERE NOW. PEOPLE'S THIRST FOR ANITHUANIAN STATE CAN ALSO BE SATISFIED WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE RELATIONS OF THE FEDERATION. THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO TACKLE ALL OF THESE QUESTIONSORMAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL FORM.

THUS, WE SHALL NOT RETREAT FROM THE MANDATE OF THE THIRD USSR

CONGRES OF PEOPLES DEPUTIES.

A QUESTION HAS COME IN ABOUT THE ISLANDS OF THE KURILES RIDGE. WE HAVE NO SUPERFLUOUS LAND. WE SHALL ADHERE TO THE HELSINKI POSITIONSTHE RECOGNITION OF POSTWAR REALITIES. INCLUDING THE INVIOLABILITY OF BORDERS.

THERE WAS THE FOLLOWING QUESTION. TOO: DOES THE GOVERNMENT STUDY SUCH PHENOMENA AS UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS. THE PRES1DNTT REPLIED THAT AS FAR AS HE WAS AWARE THERE EXIST SCIENTIFIC COLLECTIVES ENGAGED IN STUDYING SUCH PHENOMENA.

THIS QUESTION CAME IN: WHY. IN YOUR OPINION. DOES COMRADE YELTSIN ENJOY GREAT AUTHORITY IN THE URALS AND AT URALMASH. BUT NOT WITH THE GOVERNMENT?"

M.S. GORBACHEV REPLIED:AVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED IN THE STREETS WHAT MY ATTITUDE IS. YELTSIN. THERE WAS THE TIMENVITED THE FIRST SECRETARY OF THE SVERDLOVSK OBLAST PARTY COMMITTEE AND CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEMBER TO TRANSFER TO WORK IN THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE. WEE30DY IN CHARGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT, AND COMRADE YELTSIN, BESIDES HIS PARTY EXPERIENCE, HAD EXPERIENCE OF CONSTRUCTION, FOR HEUILDER BY EDUCATION. HE AGREED AND GOT ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THAT WORK. THEN, WHEN THE NEED TO TACKLE THE QUESTION OF THE FIRST SECRETARY OF THE MOSCOW COMMITTEE CAME UP. THE CHOICE WAS FOR BORIS NIKOLAYEVICH. RESENTED HIM AND RECOMMENDED HIM OS BEHALF OF THE POLITBURO AND TRIED TO SUPPORT HIM. HE SET ABOUT THE JOB ARDENTLY AT FIRST. BUT EVENTS DEVELOPED INAY THAT THE SITUATION IN THE CITY PARTY ORGANIZATION GREW TENSE- IN THE SUMMER,AS ON HOLIDAY, HE RAISED SHARPLY THE QUESTION OF HIS RESIGNATION FROM THAT POST. AID: I'LL COME BACK AND WE'LLHAT. MY AIM WAS SIMPLE: TO COOL PASSIONS, SO THAT COMRADE YELTSIN COULD CONTINUE WORKING. BUT BORIS NIKOLAYEVICH DID NOT HIED THIS ADVISE AND INSISTED ON BEING RELIEVED, SINCE HE DID NOT WANT TO WORK IN SUCH AN ATMOSPHERE. O NOT THINK HE HAD SUTTICIENT ARGUMENTS - IT WAS SOME KIND OF WHIM, STRICTLY SPEAKING, AND THAT IS JUST HOW THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE SAW

IT- BUT YOU HAVE READ ALL TH15WE PUBLISHED THE STORY OF THIS MATTER IN FULL.

I WAS CONVINCED THAT HE HAD TO BE KEPTRIED TO KEEP THIS PROCESS WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF PARTY DEMOCRACY AND COMRADELY DISCUSSION. TTEMPTED TO ASK ONCE MORE HOW HE VIEWED THE OBSERVATIONS OF COMRADES. NO, HE SAIDSK YOU TO RELIEVE HE. WELL, LET IT BE. NSISTED THAT HIS EXPERIENCE SHOULD BE USEDINISTERIAL POST AND THAT HE SHOULD CONTINUE HIS ACTIVITY IN THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE.

THERE ARE ALL MANNER OF TURN-AROUNDS IN LIFE. WE TOOK ACCOUNT OF SOME. YELTSIN'S QUALITIES WHICH HAD ALREADY BEEN REVEALED WHEN HE WAS HEREOU KNOW HIS STYLE BETTEROBUT WE THOUGHT THAT THE MOSCOW PARTY ORGANIZATION AND THE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD "GRIND ALL THAT DOWN" AND THE EXCESSES WOULD GO- THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. THEN, IN MY OPINION, HE CHOSE THE COURSE WHICH WAS NOT THE BEST AND SET OFF ON THE COURSE OF CONFRONTATION.

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