LUNCH WITH HOOVER, LADD, DELOACH, SMITH, DULLES, WYMAN AND KIRKPATRICK

Created: 11/7/1951

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KEMORAND-lH TOR THS BHCCHD

SUBJKCTi Lunch with Hoover, Ladd, DeLoach, Smith, Dulles, tfyioan and Kirkpatrlck

1. Oeneral Snlth stated that the purpose of the luncheon was to try and workethod whoroby there could be closer cooperation. He aald that he realized there had been misunderstandings in the past and thoughtarge mraber of then were the result or personalities rather then any question in policy. He stated that he recognised the need for legal-attaches abroad to handle criminal natters and matters involving the violations. laws and welcomed their presence, and would be delisted to have Mr. Hoover put aa wany as be Oh si red in the field. He etressed the need for close coordination between theseand ours and pointed out the dangers of foreign Intelligence services playing us off againat each other. Be pointed out that CIA needed some of the -naterial obtained by the FBI to paaa to foreign intelligence cervices as quid pro quo.

2. The Director then reviewed orally with Mr. Hoover thethe study that had bean prepared for bin and stated that, while the

study had been prepared for hlwaelf, he wanted to hand it to Hr. fT*dlocusalona. Mr. Booyar said that the,pro-

'posals- all' seertd'-very reasonable and thj^

to get together with Oeneral Smith periodically, at leaatonth if not more often, for informal chats over lunch or dinner. He aald further that he thought that all the details of the relations between the two agencies could be worked out by Mr. Ladd and Mr. Kirkpatrlck. The Director then raised the question of awjwberahip on the IIC aad said that he thought that CIA ahould sit aa an observer on this body. Mr. Hoover replied that he thought thla matter had been aettled and that lt had been agreed that CIA would be asked to alt wherever matters affecting it were concerned. Mr. JJullea said that he believed it would be very valuable for CIA to listen in on the comnlttee's discuaalon of coemunlsa in the United States. Mr. Hoover countered by pointing outonsiderable part of the IIC dlscusalona were procedural and not eubstentlve. General Smith said that the relatione of CIA to tho IIC would be like those of the FBI to the IAC where Keay sat and did little but listen.

3. The Director nentloned that he realized that the FBI might be concerned over CU security. He pointed out that be had not understood the demands of the operators for cowpartmentalization when he first arrived, but now recogniied its necessity and that the FBI could be certain that its material would be handled with the greatest of care. The Director stated that he regretted the Incident in Mexico City and that he thought the FBI hadgetting Ous Hall, but

that the CIA would like to be kept informed. Mr. Hoover sold that hearge part of the difficulties in Mexico City otenwed from the ambassador and that lie hoped in the future our representatives would work out setterh between themselves and refer then to Washington rather thanhird party.

LYMAN B. KIHK PATRICK Deputy Assistant Director Special Operations

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